DMC 817 to Sullivans: Thread Conversion
The closest Sullivans equivalent to DMC 817 (Very Dark Coral Red) is Sullivans 45219.
Close MatchHex #BB051F · reds family
Only the DMC swatch is rendered as stored color data here. Compare the physical target skein before you assume a visual match.
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Conversion Notes
Sullivans 45219 is a close match for DMC 817 Very Dark Coral Red. For autumn designs where 817 provides the deepest, most saturated red tones in fall foliage — the vivid warm red of a maple leaf at peak color, paired with copper and brown threads for multi-hued autumn rendering — Sullivans 45219 should capture the warm, orange-leaning dark red character adequately for most practical applications. The specific warmth of the thread — the quality that makes it read as coral-red-dark rather than garnet-dark or wine-dark — is worth comparing in hand against your lighter coral and warm-red palette threads before committing to large autumn fill areas. As with very dark saturated reds generally, dye lot consistency matters: purchasing multiple skeins from the same lot is advisable for any design where 817 fills large leaf areas, since subtle lot-to-lot variation in deep saturated reds can read as color inconsistency across the leaf areas when the finished piece is viewed at normal distance. For backstitch outlining applications where 817’s warm undertone is the technique’s defining quality, the exact-rated Madeira 0211 is the more reliable choice. For general warm-dark-red accent and fill use in modest quantities, Sullivans 45219 provides a practical working substitute in most conditions.
Reference quality
How We Validate This Match
This Sullivans page is meant to help you shortlist a replacement quickly, then verify the physical skein before you mix brands in the same stitched area.
- Methodology
- This comparison uses the site's source-of-truth record for DMC 817, the stored Sullivans equivalent, and the saved close rating before rendering the page copy.
- Verification status
- Close cross-brand match. Treat it as a shortlist, not proof that the physical threads will be visually identical under every fabric and light condition.
- Source basis
- Published cross-brand floss chart mapping. Use it as a shortlist, then confirm with physical thread because sheen and dye lots still matter.
- Last reviewed
- 2026-04-20
- Best use
- Close and approximate matches work best for replacements, backups, or whole-project brand swaps after you stitch a small sample on the target fabric.
Decision guide
When to trust DMC 817 to Sullivans 45219
This page is strongest as a decision aid, not as a guarantee that two branded skeins will vanish into each other without testing.
Best for
- + Replacing missing floss when DMC 817 is unavailable and Sullivans 45219 is good enough after a stitched sample check.
- + Shortlisting a Sullivans substitute before you buy skeins, especially if your project can tolerate small differences in sheen or dye lot.
- + Comparing this Sullivans candidate against the other conversions and nearby DMC shades linked from the page before you commit to a full swap.
Watch for
- ! Close matches are not safe to assume interchangeable in focal areas without a physical test on your fabric.
- ! Brand sheen, strand thickness, and project lighting can make DMC 817 and Sullivans 45219 look further apart than the stored match rating suggests.
- ! If the design depends on smooth gradients or skin-tone transitions, compare this swap against the neighboring DMC shades before you substitute a large block.
Before you commit
- Compare DMC 817 and Sullivans 45219: lay the physical skeins together in daylight before you mix brands in the same stitched area.
- Test on your project fabric: stitch a small sample so fabric color and stitch density reveal whether the match still holds at full coverage.
- Keep a fallback ready: if the swap feels off, use the linked related DMC shades or another brand conversion instead of forcing the closest stored match.
DMC 817 to Sullivans FAQ
These answers are the same statements published in this page's FAQ structured data.
What is the Sullivans equivalent of DMC 817?+
The closest Sullivans equivalent to DMC 817 (Very Dark Coral Red) is Sullivans 45219. This is a close match.
Is the DMC 817 to Sullivans conversion exact?+
The conversion from DMC 817 (Very Dark Coral Red) to Sullivans 45219 is rated as a close match. Thread colors vary slightly between brands, so compare physical thread in daylight before stitching a large area.
Can I mix DMC 817 and Sullivans 45219 in the same project?+
You can use DMC 817 and Sullivans 45219 together when the close match is acceptable for your project, but always test them side by side on your fabric first because sheen and dye lots can create visible differences.
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