DMC 780 to J&P Coats: Thread Conversion
The closest J&P Coats equivalent to DMC 780 (Ultra Very Dark Topaz) is J&P Coats 5309.
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Only the DMC swatch is rendered as stored color data here. Compare the physical target skein before you assume a visual match.
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Conversion Notes
J&P Coats 5309 is a close match for DMC 780 Ultra Very Dark Topaz, but the same code appears as the match for DMC 781 Very Dark Topaz in some conversion references. This suggests J&P Coats may treat these two closely related deep topaz values as a single color zone rather than as distinct shades — the same gradient-collapse problem documented for Anchor. For designs requiring clear value distinction between 780 and 781 — lion fur gradients, wood grain sequences, heraldic gold shading that needs a deep shadow floor distinctly darker than the adjacent dark tone — verify in hand that J&P Coats 5309 and whatever J&P Coats number is listed for 781 are actually different threads before beginning a detailed shading sequence. If the two J&P Coats numbers turn out to be the same shade in practice, sourcing DMC originals or Madeira (which maintains distinct numbered equivalents for both) is necessary to achieve the gradient. For designs where 780 appears as a standalone deep shadow accent without 781 as a companion, the J&P Coats close-rated substitute is workable without this complication.
Reference quality
How We Validate This Match
This J&P Coats page is meant to help you shortlist a replacement quickly, then verify the physical skein before you mix brands in the same stitched area.
- Methodology
- This comparison uses the site's source-of-truth record for DMC 780, the stored J&P Coats equivalent, and the saved close rating before rendering the page copy.
- Verification status
- Close cross-brand match. Treat it as a shortlist, not proof that the physical threads will be visually identical under every fabric and light condition.
- Source basis
- Published cross-brand floss chart mapping. Use it as a shortlist, then confirm with physical thread because sheen and dye lots still matter.
- Last reviewed
- 2026-04-20
- Best use
- Close and approximate matches work best for replacements, backups, or whole-project brand swaps after you stitch a small sample on the target fabric.
Decision guide
When to trust DMC 780 to J&P Coats 5309
This page is strongest as a decision aid, not as a guarantee that two branded skeins will vanish into each other without testing.
Best for
- + Replacing missing floss when DMC 780 is unavailable and J&P Coats 5309 is good enough after a stitched sample check.
- + Shortlisting a J&P Coats substitute before you buy skeins, especially if your project can tolerate small differences in sheen or dye lot.
- + Comparing this J&P Coats candidate against the other conversions and nearby DMC shades linked from the page before you commit to a full swap.
Watch for
- ! Close matches are not safe to assume interchangeable in focal areas without a physical test on your fabric.
- ! Brand sheen, strand thickness, and project lighting can make DMC 780 and J&P Coats 5309 look further apart than the stored match rating suggests.
- ! If the design depends on smooth gradients or skin-tone transitions, compare this swap against the neighboring DMC shades before you substitute a large block.
Before you commit
- Compare DMC 780 and J&P Coats 5309: lay the physical skeins together in daylight before you mix brands in the same stitched area.
- Test on your project fabric: stitch a small sample so fabric color and stitch density reveal whether the match still holds at full coverage.
- Keep a fallback ready: if the swap feels off, use the linked related DMC shades or another brand conversion instead of forcing the closest stored match.
DMC 780 to J&P Coats FAQ
These answers are the same statements published in this page's FAQ structured data.
What is the J&P Coats equivalent of DMC 780?+
The closest J&P Coats equivalent to DMC 780 (Ultra Very Dark Topaz) is J&P Coats 5309. This is a close match.
Is the DMC 780 to J&P Coats conversion exact?+
The conversion from DMC 780 (Ultra Very Dark Topaz) to J&P Coats 5309 is rated as a close match. Thread colors vary slightly between brands, so compare physical thread in daylight before stitching a large area.
Can I mix DMC 780 and J&P Coats 5309 in the same project?+
You can use DMC 780 and J&P Coats 5309 together when the close match is acceptable for your project, but always test them side by side on your fabric first because sheen and dye lots can create visible differences.
Other Conversions for DMC 780
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